Pein vs. Madara?!


Question: Pein vs!. Madara!?
This has been a question that has been bothering me for some time!. When we first met Pein in the manga, I thought he was invincible, the strongest ninja that ever lived!. He slaugtered Hanzo, his entire family, as well as countless others!. However, more recently, I've begun to lean towards Madara as being the stronger one!. I mean, Pein wouldn't take orders from someone who is weaker than him!.

Pein:
-killed Hanzo
-rules Amegakura
-has the RInnegan, revered as the strongest of the 3 eyes
-presumed leader of Akatsuki
-taught by Jiraiya, one the legendary Sannin
-killed Jiraiya
-killed his best friend for his body
-has six bodies
-has never lost a battle

Madara:
-was the first Uchiha
-tore out his brothers eyes for his own
-has the eternal sharingan
-controlled the Nine-Tailed Fox
-founder of Akatsuki
-alias is 'Tobi'
-founded the Uchiha
-presumed to be the strongest ninja that ever lived
-one of the two founders of Konohagakure

What do you think!?Www@Enter-QA@Com


Answers:
What I think is that Madara is stronger!. This is because he really is strong, i mean if you think about it, akatsuki wouldnt exist if madrara hasnt made it and he controlled the NIN TAILED FOX which is so powerful that its impossible to destroy pratically or even control that it has to be sealed up, you know!?
and exactly your point here, like pein takes orders from madara, so if pein were stronger then madara then he wouldnt tried to kill him to takeover, yes!?
aha
well this is my own opinion but think about it
madara is an uchiha and the first leader you can say
and well !.!.!.!.
i just think he is stronger, it would take a ery long time to defeat him
and pein only killed jiraiya becasue he had the advantage!.
if pein was only one body agaiany jirayia , jirsyia would've killed him i think
but he had 5 other bodies which is hard to defeat by yourself
and jiraiya killed one of pein's bodies so he could've won if h didnt have 5 other bodies!.

overall
i think madara is stronger then pein!. (:Www@Enter-QA@Com

You forgot, Madara is immortal and can so far heal from just about any attack in an instant!. also Jiraiya got rid of 3 of those bodies!. Even if he were to return with 3 new bodies Madara still is the leader and why would someone that strong be willing to be led!? We won't know what he can really do until there's some type of final battle of the manga (which I hope they have and it's not dragged out like inuyasha)Www@Enter-QA@Com

Madara
and madara wasnt a founder of akatsuki
what does madaras alias have to do with anythng
madara didnt help build konoha

most of your facts either arent true or are of no importanceWww@Enter-QA@Com

Madara, beacuse he is one of the founders of the leaf village!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

Madara wins !.!.!. Like you said, Pein would not take orders from someone who was weaker than him!.!.!. Madara Uchiha would win but eternal Mangekyo vs!. Rinnegan is a good one but Mangekyo Sharingan wins!!! it is true that Rinnegan is the better of Sharingan and Byakugan!!! but Mangekyo is better than just regular Sharingan!!! especially in the hands of someone with such experience with it!!

Rashaud is wrong!!
the Uchiha clan and the Senju clan were the 2 founding clans of Konohagakure!!! Madara and his brother led the Uchiha clan and the 1st hokage led the Senju clan!. after Madara and the 1st hokage had a huge fight (over what would happen to the Uchiha clan and Konoha) Madara left and formed the Akatsuki secretly and was giving Pein orders!! he later joined Akatsuki officially as Tobi!!!
Thus he is a founder of Konoha!!!Www@Enter-QA@Com



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