Astrology: Serious questions, from a skeptic?!


Question:

Astrology: Serious questions, from a skeptic?

1) I’m open minded, and willing to admit that there are plenty of things I simply do not know. However, to regard this with any amount of seriousness, I would ask for some evidence of its credibility. So, if I may request, make me a believer? I am a male, born June 12, 1983 at approximately 9 p.m. Tell me something about myself. Something not already evident from my question, here. If you are unable to, proceed to question 2.

2) If we have determined that nothing about me can be known from the information provided, aside from that information itself, then it renders the belief that it can, astrology, completely unfounded. What, then, is your excuse, as a follower of this practice, that absolves you of the prejudice inherent in it? In other words, how is claiming that all Scorpios, Virgos, etc. act a certain way any different from claiming that all black people, or all asians, or all hispanics, act a certain way? How is this any better than racism?

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2 months ago
I don't doubt that. About the studies, and astrology lacking in effectiveness. As I'm sure you can tell, I doubt the stuff myself, very much, and seek to make a point about the harm (that being prejudice) in it. But I find personal experience to be worth a lot more. I don't trust any information that just comes from "studies". I've come across plenty of "studies" that have been terribly flawed, and in some cases, have later been proven wrong and the results reversed.

2 months ago
Olesya - Pennsylvania, smartass. By all means, impart thy wisdom...

2 months ago
dan - I've been with my current girlfriend for almost 3 years. Haven't cheated on her or anything, haven't so much as thought of it. Sounds loyal enough to me. I also know Geminis who are believers, who fail miserably at intelligence and skepticism. No offense, honestly. I am grateful to you, for making a serious effort to answer me. I respect you, despite our difference in opinion.

2 months ago
Olesya – Well, to begin with, I called you a smartass because of your initial answer. Seemed a little pompous. I apologize if that was not your intent. However, throwing the “you should respect me because I’m older than you” argument lends more pretention to your character. Nonetheless, thank you for taking the time to provide all of that. I do appreciate it. It was interesting, but nothing different from any other astrological predictions I’ve seen. Some of it was accurate, some of it kind of close, some of it way, way off.

2 months ago
mecasa – Having one general trait associated with my sign does not prove to me that any of this is valid, and again, knowing geminis who absolutely do not fit that description tells me that it has little if any reliability.

2 months ago
To everyone - I plan to write an entry detailing all of this, in my blog, tomorrow. I'll provide the link after closing the question, tonight. Just in case anyone is interested.


Answers:

Nothing can be known about you from the info you provided because you didn't mention your place of birth. The position of stars changes depending on where you were born. The sky of Antarctica is not as that of the Africa. Duh/


Don't call me a "smartass". I am a lady and respectable person. And I am older than you are. Watch your manners. Because it is your first time, I forgive you.

Pennsylvania is big, but I will try to work with what you gave me. It should be close enough. I will try to do the best I can, even though it is pretty much wasting my time on you; but I have nothing better to do tonight anyway. Soooo, here it is:

You might not believe it, but everything in this life is predetermined, predestined. If the term fatalism is familiar to you, you will know what I mean. So, first I will show the aspects in your chart that represent your personal character. These aspects can be changeable, but the truth is: people rarely change. The second part will be your predestination. The planets formed a certain formation, the very complicated one, at the time when you were born, and you cannot change that. The program was set. You will not be able to change your destiny.

Part 1 (most notable aspects of your character):

363 Conjunction Jupiter - Uranus

You know what's going on at a glance. You can see people through. You are after knowledge. You are very independent, like your freedom of action. You are a non-conformist.

334 Conjunction Sun - Mars

You are frank. Full of self-confidence. You like to dominate, command, direct. Will-power.

-144 Opposition Mercury - Jupiter (Negative aspect)

You lack judgement, and are full of self-importance. You will have difficulty in realizing your plans, because you lack clarity and rate your qualities higher than they are.

-22 Opposition Mercury - Uranus (negative aspect)

You like polemic, to criticize and, above all, to CONTRADICT. You lack diplomacy and tend to dissipate your energy. You cannot stay in the same place and like change even if it means a backward step in your professional career.

-22 Opposition Mars - Ascendant (Negative aspect)

You are quarrelsome, critical and violent.

17 Sextile Pluto - Ascendant (good aspect)

You have will-power and ambition, and like to have your own way.

36 Trine Sun - Pluto (really good aspect)

You are strong. And always pick yourself up after a setback. Wise and experienced. Good sense of organization. Sound decision making. I think this is a really good aspect because it will enable you to be very successful as a president of a corporation or CEO, anything that requires good conceptual and, most importantly, strategic thinking.

65 Opposition Sun - Neptune (negative aspect)

You complicate life unnecessarily!! You over-analyze things that are not important and therefore miss out on big things and concepts. Your ideas are grand. But they are also worthless, for the most part. They are always going to be only the dream-world. The dream-world is enough for you. Basically, the notion of this aspect is that you are trying to assure yourself that everybody is too dumb to share your ideas, when in fact people are just not interested in them, plain and simple, mostly because your ideas have no benefit for the society. They are entertained by you for the single purpose of self-gratification.

-80 Square Moon - Midheaven (very bad)

You have an irresolute nature. Sudden changes of humor. You are unstable. This instability shows itself not only in professional life but also in love life and friendships. You are VERY judgemental and generally disrespect and despise people. You think you are better and smarter than everybody else. Everyone is a moron except you. You do not see the good in people. The fact is: you possess facts, but you DO NOT possess knowledge. (Facts and knowledge are different things). You can Rationalize things, but you can not Explain things. When it comes to the Explanation part , you are stuck. The worst element of this aspect is that the hearts of others are closed for you. And this is sad, because you mean well, most of the times. (By the way, many inmates with antisocial personality disorder have this aspect in their charts).

96 Trine Venus - Uranus

independent in love. You are scared of losing your liberty. If you marry, you will regret it. You have that little something that attracts girls: you like amorous adventures, you are romantic. You are the eternal lover! :)

118 Trine Venus - Jupiter

You are good-hearted. You mean well. Generous and have a good character.

I will do the second part now (there are more in the first one, but those above are the key aspects).

Part II (your destiny):

Mercury in V

Big taste for intellectual games. Very curious about everything, even in love. You like children.

Ascendant in Sagittarius

Research, philosophy, mathematics. Lots of writing comes to an end. There is a possibility of a geeky side in you. You are different from others. You are NOT a follower and never will be, but the others have a problem following you. Children will be a source of happiness and pride.

House II in Aquarius

Success in professional life won't take place without the help of friends and protectors. While you will earn enormous amounts, be careful. You will lose as much if not even more. For the next year or two, your job situation will remain unsatisfactory to you. Because the Saturn still retrogrades in your chart, professionally, you are still way below your potential in your job. It shows that you might be working in a place that has nothing to do with your true abilities. People in authority (your bosses) do not recognize your potential (mostly because, in this case, they are truly too dumb for that, I think). In short, whatever you do for the living, this is not a place for you to be! You deserve better. As I said, the situation will not change for the next couple years.

House IV in Aries

Lots of authority within the family. You will know how to take the destiny of the family in hand. You will sort of like marry for love, but the marriage will be more like a business contract.

House VII in Gemini

The possibility is high that you will marry quite young, and divorce later. A second marriage (with less passion but a lot of friendship). Frightened of living alone in old age.

House V in Taurus (this one is really good)

You will have a pleasant home, a charming wife, loving and sweet children, nice little meals, and pleasant evenings with the loved one. The good life. (I think this has to do with the first marriage though; but honestly, I am not sure. It can be the second one).

House XI in Scorpio

Adore to debate endlessly with friends who don't share your ideas. The discussion can lead to words, even a certain verbal violence. Scorpio in this house also shows that you have rather dark complexion, like your eyes are likely to be of a dark color and your hair are naturally not blond. Very often, Scorpio in XI produces very beautiful, magnetic, and intense eyes that attract people, make people remember them.

House XII in Sagittarius

Problems abroad, or with foreigners, or flight abroad, exile.

Saturn in X

Your up-bringing is rigorous, severe. The loss of a parent (most likely through divorce). Saturn in X often shows that your first name might start with a consonant like "N", "J", or "S". Study law; you WILL be most successful and powerful at it. Modern technologies will bring money. And also big losses.

Mars in VI

You will meet problems at work, where professional rivalry blocks your ideas. You will slowly and surely suppress all your rivals (there will be many).

Venus in VIII

Not frightened by the unknown, death. You will have a peaceful and happy end. Natural and late death. Possible inheritance.

House VIII in Leo

Have regular check-ups on the heart and arteries.

OK, I need to go to bed now/ I like your chart. You are very unique person, very different from others. Anyways, let me know how close are my calculations. I am still learning astrology and therefore appreciate any feedback/.

Oh, another thing, I just read that you have always been very faithful to your girlfriend. Your Venus is in Leo. People with Venus in Leo are very, very loyal in their hearts as well as in their minds. I have Venus in Leo too/ Loyalty is the number one thing.

I think the sites recommended by other answerers are really amateur.


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