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Question: What is placidus and koch?
what is the real astrology? western, indian, Koch, placidus,....
Why does one site show me a birthchart and another one a totally other, (the other sites uses placidus and Koch) is the chart on astro.com the real one because i went to this site astrology weekly.com zand they gave me other houses; like on Astro i had sun in eleventh house and moon in 6th house, and on astroweekly i had sun in tenth house and moon in 5th house, and all the other planets showed different houses too, pls someone help me with this??? also on astro.com i had ascendant gemini and midheaven Aquarius and on astroweekly i had ascendant cancer and midheaven pisces?!
what is the right one???
any pro- astrologists who can help?
Answers: What is placidus and koch?
what is the real astrology? western, indian, Koch, placidus,....
Why does one site show me a birthchart and another one a totally other, (the other sites uses placidus and Koch) is the chart on astro.com the real one because i went to this site astrology weekly.com zand they gave me other houses; like on Astro i had sun in eleventh house and moon in 6th house, and on astroweekly i had sun in tenth house and moon in 5th house, and all the other planets showed different houses too, pls someone help me with this??? also on astro.com i had ascendant gemini and midheaven Aquarius and on astroweekly i had ascendant cancer and midheaven pisces?!
what is the right one???
any pro- astrologists who can help?
It depends upon what part of the world you are born in. Those of us born in the USA usually employ the Placidus system, as used by the American Federation of Astrologers.
The Placidus and Koch systems have a different conceptual basis, that of time systems. Placidus de Tito, a 17th century monk and mathematician devised a system dividing the time it takes the Ascendant to become the MC. His system became widespread only in the 19th century when adopted by Raphael's ephemeris. This seems to fit most people world-wide, and goes some way (together with Raphael's) to explaining the popularity of the Placidus system today.
The Birth Place Method was devised by Dr Koch in 1971. It also uses the notion of a plane of time, but this time sweeping down from the MC to the Ascendant, and more closely linked to the horizon. The MC is therefore considered the most important point, as well as the local geographical environment. The MC here is linked to ego, and to who one is and what one wants to become. Naturally this emphasises individual freedom and free will, and therefore this system is very popular in the US amongst astro-psychologists.
With modern computerised calculations, it has become far easier for the astrologer to experiment with different house systems. In the future, tailoring the house system to the client's own needs and environment is likely to become much more common place, as the ways in which different systems fit different people is gradually more and more understood. In time, as client awareness of astrology goes, those with the knowledge may even be asked to choose for themselves which system they would prefer.
The very first astronomers were in fact court astrologers by trade, and astronomers as a hobby (how times change...). These ancient astrologers had devised a division of the zodiac called mundane division in order to study how a specific personality (shown by the signs and planets) would deal with the environment in which it found itself. Claudius Ptolemy discussed in great detail the problems of house divisions, and the experiences covered by each house.
Hence some house systems are thousands of years old; others maybe only thirty. This diversity is one of the main points of contention between astrologers themselves. All systems are astronomically valid, but their standpoints vary, and therefore so do the degrees at which the houses fall. Many astrologers are even unaware of the conceptual differences in the various house systems, and tend to stick rigidly to the one which they were taught. This is understandable - calculating different house divisions by hand is very laborious and long-winded, and even today with computer software available, the busy astrologer usually has other more pressing matters to attend to.
How then does an astrologer choose a house system? Well, the individual studying alone is more than likely to use Placidus Houses. The reason for this is simple - he has to consult an ephemeris in any case, and Raphael's Ephemeris is the most widely used, which gives the information needed for Placidus Houses.
placidus uses asc for the ego and calculates up to the mc, koch uses the mc as the ego and calculates down thru the asc. Different interpretations also apply with the different systems. Report It
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