A question about asteroids, and dwarf planets?!


Question: A question about asteroids, and dwarf planets!?
Specifically dwarf planets, and Chiron!.

Pluto popped up out of nowhere in 1930!.!.!.Pluto didn't have several years of study before it was taken seriously!. It came, and astrologers tacked it onto Scorpio!.!.

Now ofcourse, Pluto is 'gone' in certain respects!.

1930 wasn't that long ago!.!.!.

Ceres, however, It was discovered on January 1, 1801!.!.!.that's a long time without Astrology giving it significance!.!.!.Scientifically, it's put in the same category as Pluto!.!.!.

Chiron, although considered an Asteroid!.!.!.is given a spot on most every birth chart, if not the wheel itself!.!.!.but Ceres isn't!?

I'm not looking for a perfect answer, I'm just hoping someone can give me some feed back, on why these other planets aren't taken more seriously in Astrology!.!.!.!?

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Answers:
First of all, Pluto is not "gone" and any Western astrologer worth their salt, will continue to use it as one of the rulers of Scorpio!. And any astrologer that thinks a Pluto conjunction of the Moon or Sun is not really powerful -- !! -- has been drinking the Koolaid too much!

As to why some asteroids are more popular than others, Chiron isn't even that popular either!. Many many astrologers could give a toot about any asteroid and don't bother with them!. More don't bother than do!.

As to why did Chiron get more popular than Ceres, that's like asking why someone becomes a famous movie star and another not!. No one knows!. :-(

I think you are venturing to mix scientific with psychological here, and that usually doesn't work all that great, in astrology!. Like apples and oranges!.!.!.!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

Although asteroids are not my area of interest, I would hazard a guess that Ceres is likely to have less influence than the others you mention because it lies between the Sun and Saturn!. While these planets describe the basic urges of the personality, with all due respect I would certainly not describe those beyond Saturn as supporting characters!. In my experience these planets have an influence of a different order of magnitude, they have a very powerful effect, particularly when in aspect to the more personal planets, and the power of Pluto is certainly not reflected in its dwarf planet status!. Www@Enter-QA@Com

Ceres is an interesting case!.!.!. :) When she was first discovered, they did think she was a planet!. Then she was later "demoted" to an asteroid!. Now she's promoted back up to being a planet again, even if it's only a dwarf!. To me a planet is a planet: if they want to tack an extra label on to say what kind of a planet it is, that's fine!. They're all planets to me!.

I think astrologers have just had a lot more time to get close to Pluto!. Of course, some astrologers don't even pay attention to him at all, or Uranus and Neptune for that matter!. Chiron is another celestial object that just seemed to fascinate a large group of astrologers!.

At this point there are some astrologers out there who are like "Enough already! I can't fit another thing into my charts!" (and I hear this quite often! LOL) Personally I think there is a distinction between the planets, the asteroids and minor or outer planets!. Think of the "major" planets - Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter & Saturn - as the key actors in a chart!. Without them you're missing some very core pieces of the puzzle!. All the other planets - dwarf or otherwise - along with the asteroids are like supporting characters!. You can get a lot of information without them, but they add more details to the puzzle for those who are interested!.

I'm an asteroid buff myself, so I do tend to look at a lot of them!. :) A good book if you want to learn more about the more popular asteroids is Asteroid Goddesses by Demetra George; this one was written before Ceres was promoted and includes a lot of Ceres info!. Celestial Renaissance by Kelly Lee Phipps also gives more depth to Ceres & Chiron than others do, though this one may be hard to find until it's next printing comes out!. Zane Stein is a pioneer in researching centaurs and dwarf planets (www!.zanestein!.com/chiron!.htm), as is Phillip Sedgewick (philipsedgwick!.com)!. There are a lot of astrologers who do take them seriously, but there's probably about an even number who could care less!.

If enough people create interest, eventually the chart websites will catch up!. Most chart software already includes the symbols for major asteroids: you just have to select the ones you want!. You can always put them into astro!.com yourself, either by highlighting them in the box on the chart selection page, or typing their numbers into the box at the very bottom of the chart selection page!. I think they just handle it this way because of the sheer number of asteroids out there!. If Ceres gains more popularity, it may be a more automatic thing on chart sites!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

Seems like astrologers pick and choose what they want to use!. Nothing outside of Saturn was known until the invention of the telescope!. Their are moons of the outer planets that are larger than Pluto and Mercury(and any asteroid), but these are not in use!. Size does not matter!. Maybe the asteroids are used because some are named after Roman god like the planets are!. Astronomers control how space objects are named for they are the ones that find them!. Astrologers make up attributes as they please!. No science involved!.

Since Pluto and the other "objects" were not know or use till now, does that mean everyone's birth chart before their use was wrong!?Www@Enter-QA@Com



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