Plot hole in Superman II: Richard Donner cut ?!


Question: Is it just me, or in the Donner version of Superman II (recently made it to DVD), after Superman turns the world back in time yet again... now the final scene in the diner doesn't make any sense.

If time went backward, the first fight would have never happened!!!!!


Answers: Is it just me, or in the Donner version of Superman II (recently made it to DVD), after Superman turns the world back in time yet again... now the final scene in the diner doesn't make any sense.

If time went backward, the first fight would have never happened!!!!!

If you are into the whole space time continuum thing then you should know that Superman could not reverse time beyond the point that he received his powers back or he would have crashed having no powers. He has to get his powers back in order to reverse time. so all he could do is go back one second later and save the rest of the world if he can, going so fast that he appears to be in more than one place at the same time.

But you are correct that if he could have gone back in time to before he was beaten up then the man would not remember him as the first fight would never have happened. But then again, they never explained how he went back in time and replaced himself either. According to theory both his present and his past self exist in that moment. Thus the the space time continuum should unravel.

I don't think Donner was ready to discuss this possibility.

Yeah, much of that spinning 'round the world turning back time thing is bullspit. It's kind of a Deux Ex Machina for those movies.

I just always considered it a lame excuse to change something that happened that Supes didn't like.

Minor suspension of disbelief moment in otherwise campy fun. It can be explained by noting that _Superman_ remembers the first fight, and he's coming to give the guy the lesson he so richly deserves.

BTW, I think the release version of the movie is actually better. A good editor is a director's best friend -- just ask Peter Jackson...



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