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Question: When in the murder of a criminal by an ordinary citizen pushed too far, why do we tend to focus on the rights!?
!.!.!.of the criminal and not the ordinary citizen pushed too far as well!? I mean if we are going to charge some ordinary person with a crime in response to a crime being committed against them, should we not also address the 1st crime as well!? I mean it did indeed provoke the attack!.

Case in point:http://nz!.news!.yahoo!.com/080616/3/64v8!.h!.!.!.
Monday June 16, 12:14 PM
Cousin tells court of attack on tagger
A teenager stabbed to death after being caught tagging in his South Auckland neighbourhood tried to run away, then tried to spray his attacker's face in a desperate bid to escape!.

Tihema Clifford Cameron, 15, died after being stabbed in Manurewa on January 26!.

Bruce Emery, 50, who is charged with his murder, today appeared at a depositions hearing at the Manakau District Court!.

A relative of the dead man, who has name suppression, said the pair were drinking and smoking cannabis before they took several spray cans out to tag neighbourhood properties!.Www@Enter-QA@Com


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I live in the USA and you are right!. The criminals seem to have more rights in a court of law!. The ones left behind can't "lose it" or they are jailed or get contempt of court , maybe even assault and battery charges!. We are not supposed to have feelings about losing a loved one!. We must remain in control!. In the USA!. the criminal is given a lawyer and a lawyer carries a lot of weight in a courtroom!. If someone goes in to court without a lawyer, they don't stand a chance!. I know personally about this in the USA because my brother stabbed himself and falsely accused me!. Luckily with the testimony of two other state witness and I was also a state witness, I was allowed to be grilled like a common criminal!. This case went on for over a year!. I cried in the end and it divided our family and the judge didn't even get my brother psychiatric help!. My brother did this before and tried to accuse my Dad of the same thing when he was alive !. My brother stabbed himself then too!. He also shot himself in the leg and our doctor hid it from the police!. The scales of justice needs to be fixed!. If a police officer doesn't follow everything by the book, the case is thrown out of court!. I wasn't even allowed to get a restraining order as my brother had come to my apartment and pretended to be the maintenance guy!. I knew who it was and didn't open the door and sent him away!. My brother then moved to the apartments next to me and it was horrible to have him live there and see his face and scary too!. Both need to be addresssed, but ordinary citizens who "lose it" because of being attacked, don't seem to have any rights!. Even getting psychiatric help would be better!. I know when I am pushed to my limits, I am capable of harming someone and have!. I fought a guy that threatened to shoot me and he later down the road grabbed my purse and I fought him all the way across the road and went up to their waiting car with 3 other guys in it and they took off in reverse!. The courts took years and the minors got more than the guy who was an adult and had a long criminal hisory and did the actual assault, got away with 60 days in jail!. That night they attacked three of us separately and the second guy (I am a feamle) had his head split open!. I don't know what became of the 3rd person!. Is this justice!? I don't think so!. I guess it isn't justice where you live either!. The nedia are sensationlists and love to get the bad stories out and not much of the good stories!. It makes for better headlines and sells more papers than good deeds!. I am soory to say this, but it's true!. Just listen to the news and you will know that!. Sorry I didn't look at your link!. I didn't feel I needed to!. If I had pepper spray , I would certainly use it or more when I feel threatened with my life!. The night the robbers got me, I had a can of pepper spray but it was empty and I was questioned by the opolice for having it !. It wasn't police issue either and posed no threat empty!. They found the purse days later with the money missing, which is everything I had, as it was money for disability!. Good question!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

The person who died here did not commit a crime deserving of death!. If you are going to rise up against the opposition you'd better be damned sure you are doing it for the right reasons!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

The drinking part shouldn't matter if its on a death of a boy!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

I think it seems pretty clear that Mr Emery is NOT an ordinary citizen!. Ordinary people do not stab (or hurt in any way) others for ANY reason other than personal protection!.
There is a HUGE discrepancy between killing a lethal criminal and a tagger!.
This man was not pushed by this criminal to kill him!. Emery probably had some other stuff going on in his life to pushed his buttons, and Cameron was in the wrong place, doing the wrong thing at the wrong time!. And if you think about it; there is a pattern here cause Cameron also had to have been 'pushed' to the point of engaging in vandalism!.!.!.!. so if they were to delve that deep into it, the trial would go on forever and the blame would be dispursed throughout both of thier history's and the why's!? of it all; would water down the fact that this guy killed this kid for a misdemeanor!. End of story!.
Face it !.!.!. the "ordinary man" severely over reacted and this 15 year old paid with his life for the fact that this guy couldn't control his anger!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

From the facts that you've laid out, it doesn't appear the Mr!. Emery was ever in mortal danger, nor was he defending himself!. He actually chased the young man, which he shouldn't have done (I assume Mr!. Emery was not a member of law enforcement)!.

If there was no danger of physical harm to Mr!. Emery, I don't see why he shouldn't be charged with at least manslaughter!. He probably didn't mean to kill the young man, but he in fact did!. So, in essence!.!.!.even at the time of such a passionate state of mind, the person knew or should have know that his actions could have a tremendous impact such as taking a life!.Www@Enter-QA@Com

Sounds like all the facts are not out there yet!. They did say the kid tried to spray the attacker in the face to get away!. Did he spray him BEFORE he was stabbed!? That could provoke the other into stabbing him!.

I can see the homeowners frustration in chasing the kids with a knife to scare them and if he was attacked by a spray in the face of paint, I can also justify him stabbing in self defense if he was blinded!.

I would be very upset at my property being repeatedly tagged and also go to scare the idiots off!. Now they are in court crying for one of their buddies!. What the hell are they doing repeatedly tagging other peoples homes for!?Www@Enter-QA@Com



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