Saw IV ending CLARIFIED!!! READ READ READ!!!?!
Question: There are so many people on here that are saying the movie sucked and the story was crap. Yes I understand why you may feel this way and I want to help clear it all up for everyone. First I want to say that the people who write these movies are genius in putting it all together and you have to follow even the smallest of details to grasp the big picture.
First get into the concept that each movie is part of a bigger picture. What that picture happens to be is still unclear since they are far from finished with this work of art. Saw 4 is nothing more than just another piece to this puzzle. It is not a movie that can stand on it's own two feet but neither is any of the Saw movies. They are all part of a whole.
Saw 4 happens to not take place after the events of Saw 3 but they are going on at the same time. This is the point that many people are getting confused about and this is why so many people are hating this movie. Please when you watch Saw 4 take the very first scene and push it out of your mind till the end of the movie and that will also help. In Saw 3 Jigsaw was never the killer, Amanda was the one calling all the shots. How far fetched would it have been that Jigsaw had more than one helper.
<SPOILER>---PLEASE STOP READING IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED THIS MOVIE YET
--IF YOU WATCHED THE MOVIE AND ARE CONFUSED THEN PLEASE KEEP READING--
This is sort of a guide to the Saw movies that will help people understand what is going on. If people don't understand then they will stop this story and that will suck for the people who loves the series.
The first Saw movie was nothing more than just an introduction to the mind of Jigsaw. Saw one was there to get you sucked in and to let you know that from this point out everything is not as it seems.
The second Saw movie was the test of Amanda. Jigsaw knows that he is dying and he wants someone to continue his legacy so he gives his only survivor Amanda a test to see if she is fitting to follow in his footsteps.
Saw 3 was Amanda trying to keep Jigsaw alive while hosting her first set of games. At this time she was also being tried in a way since Jigsaw didn't like the way she was doing things by making the traps so people didn't have a choice. Jigsaw always gave the people of choice that is his way. Also note that in Saw 3 Amanda gets a note and Jigsaw pours wax over one of his tapes. These two small details lets you know there is more to come.
Saw 4 starts with the autopsy of Jigsaw were they fish out the wax covered tape from part 3. Then the movie starts but the autopsy isn't really the beginning but it is there to confuse you. The autopsy is really the end of 4 and starting part 5 (which starts filming in Jan. of 08). While Amanda in part 3 is hosting her own set of traps so is another apprentice of Jigsaws. His set of traps and games takes place in part 4. His story will be reveled in part 5 so don't worry as to why or how he is part of it all. He has chosen a fellow officer to be the subject of his game. (In a way I think he may have been testing Riggs to recruit as his help but we won't know till 5) Now if you are asking as to how I know that parts 3 and 4 are taking place at the same time or how I know the autopsy is really the end, the movie tells that bit of information. At the end of Saw 4 when the FBI agent walks into the building and the last scene of saw 3 is taking place and he shoots the guy who had to play the game from part 3 and Jigsaw is still laying there dead on the table as though it just happened; that is how I know they are on the same time frame. Many people think that it was a flashback but it never was it was happening in sync with the previous movie.
Saw 5 should answer the many questions you have left from parts 3 and 4 like what the letter Amanda received in part 3 was and how the detective that was the killer in part 4 became part of Jigsaw's world. Also note that when he listens to the tape found in Jigsaw's stomach during the autopsy that it states that "you think you are the only one left" or something to that extent. This may be letting people know that there were more people involved in the killings and that Jigsaw my have had help from the beginning and not just the detective.
Answers: There are so many people on here that are saying the movie sucked and the story was crap. Yes I understand why you may feel this way and I want to help clear it all up for everyone. First I want to say that the people who write these movies are genius in putting it all together and you have to follow even the smallest of details to grasp the big picture.
First get into the concept that each movie is part of a bigger picture. What that picture happens to be is still unclear since they are far from finished with this work of art. Saw 4 is nothing more than just another piece to this puzzle. It is not a movie that can stand on it's own two feet but neither is any of the Saw movies. They are all part of a whole.
Saw 4 happens to not take place after the events of Saw 3 but they are going on at the same time. This is the point that many people are getting confused about and this is why so many people are hating this movie. Please when you watch Saw 4 take the very first scene and push it out of your mind till the end of the movie and that will also help. In Saw 3 Jigsaw was never the killer, Amanda was the one calling all the shots. How far fetched would it have been that Jigsaw had more than one helper.
<SPOILER>---PLEASE STOP READING IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED THIS MOVIE YET
--IF YOU WATCHED THE MOVIE AND ARE CONFUSED THEN PLEASE KEEP READING--
This is sort of a guide to the Saw movies that will help people understand what is going on. If people don't understand then they will stop this story and that will suck for the people who loves the series.
The first Saw movie was nothing more than just an introduction to the mind of Jigsaw. Saw one was there to get you sucked in and to let you know that from this point out everything is not as it seems.
The second Saw movie was the test of Amanda. Jigsaw knows that he is dying and he wants someone to continue his legacy so he gives his only survivor Amanda a test to see if she is fitting to follow in his footsteps.
Saw 3 was Amanda trying to keep Jigsaw alive while hosting her first set of games. At this time she was also being tried in a way since Jigsaw didn't like the way she was doing things by making the traps so people didn't have a choice. Jigsaw always gave the people of choice that is his way. Also note that in Saw 3 Amanda gets a note and Jigsaw pours wax over one of his tapes. These two small details lets you know there is more to come.
Saw 4 starts with the autopsy of Jigsaw were they fish out the wax covered tape from part 3. Then the movie starts but the autopsy isn't really the beginning but it is there to confuse you. The autopsy is really the end of 4 and starting part 5 (which starts filming in Jan. of 08). While Amanda in part 3 is hosting her own set of traps so is another apprentice of Jigsaws. His set of traps and games takes place in part 4. His story will be reveled in part 5 so don't worry as to why or how he is part of it all. He has chosen a fellow officer to be the subject of his game. (In a way I think he may have been testing Riggs to recruit as his help but we won't know till 5) Now if you are asking as to how I know that parts 3 and 4 are taking place at the same time or how I know the autopsy is really the end, the movie tells that bit of information. At the end of Saw 4 when the FBI agent walks into the building and the last scene of saw 3 is taking place and he shoots the guy who had to play the game from part 3 and Jigsaw is still laying there dead on the table as though it just happened; that is how I know they are on the same time frame. Many people think that it was a flashback but it never was it was happening in sync with the previous movie.
Saw 5 should answer the many questions you have left from parts 3 and 4 like what the letter Amanda received in part 3 was and how the detective that was the killer in part 4 became part of Jigsaw's world. Also note that when he listens to the tape found in Jigsaw's stomach during the autopsy that it states that "you think you are the only one left" or something to that extent. This may be letting people know that there were more people involved in the killings and that Jigsaw my have had help from the beginning and not just the detective.
I haven't seen the movie yet and with all the bad reviews I wasn't going to waste my time, but since reading your explaination I am for sure going to see it....Thanks....
Thats quite a prolific explanation, which cleared up some issues about understanding the series. :)
Thanks for that.
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You have no idea how much that helps me Thanks. At the end i was like what the f***. I kept looking around to see if anybody else had the same questions. Thanks for the explanation. Can't wait till saw v.